artificial 24p -- "look of film" question

[ickle_jim]

if you want less frames then do it before you film, video cameras shoot 60 frames a second and film is 24... read the intruction with your camera to see how its done. i.e change shutter speed?

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ February 12, 2003 07:17 AM: Message edited by: ickle_jim ]</font>

[emjen]

is that also possible with digital8 sony cameras?

[luckyinkentucky]

I know the topic of making video have "that film look" is really annoying by now, and I apologize -- but I cant help myself. film looks so much better. I know I can take the footage I shot with my pd-150 and make the colors look like film in finalcut, but its still fast like video when i watch it on tv. I usually slow my footage down to make it look less like home video, but this isnt an option when theres dialogue in a scene. Heres what Im wondering: the video in the preview window on premiere or finalcut looks slightly slower, like 24p. at least a lot more so than the final exported product. Is this because the computer does some sort of drop-frame thing when previewing? and if so is there any way i can make my final exported video look like that?

[miker]

make sure you use your video camera in 'progressive scan mode' or be prepared for a long render ...

[GREATwarEAGLE]

Video is captured at 30 frames per second.

[jeromecain]

More specific is 29.97 per second of video. ha! Scan progessive as I seen it before and It still video look because I tasted film once and automatic understood film. Unless it scan progessive exact film then my two film camera would be on the shelf.dropped the frame to 24 which is good for blow up a film that can go the same speed which is more accurately. Jerome, deaf filmmaer and videomaker

dcr-pd150's a real nice camcorder

[eidde]

hello

Im tempted to say read the ******* manual but this is just envy so here is my 2 pence.
Video cameras take 60 'images' a second. However it takes 2 of these 'images' to make one frame. Its complicated, but you neednt know all the details: One image are the odd scan lines in the frame, the next is the even scan lines in the frame.This is then all shown at 60- fps.
The Sony PD150 has a feature which lets you take single images as frames. Fraid I cant recall what its called, but use this feature (as a help in finding it - when you use this feature you cant use a load of the other digital features.)
This will help with getting the film look.
After that I should chuck some movement on the images using a premier filter or something.

Good luck.

[eidde]

yep thats it - progressive scan mode.

[emjen]

Might be a bit off topic, but my friend saw a movie shot with three times as much fps than normal (more than a hundred(!)) and also watched it with a screen capable of showing more than what's usual, and even though the eye can't see more than 30 or something like that I believe, he said it looked really weird, natural like, as if it's real and slow motion at once. I don't know, but seems interesting, especially when you're doing slow motion with a camera shot like that.

I thought I'd just say this.

[Alex]

I've seen a couple of digital video progressive scan 24 fps attempts, I didn't like the motion at all. Especially horizontal moves across the screen.

Perhaps anyday now, perhaps it's here, I just haven't seen it yet on the cameras that you and I can afford.